User talk:BahamutX978

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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! J two (talk) 06:52, July 22, 2014 (UTC)

U.U.
The page for U.U. can be found here. It is pretty rough as it is and seeing as how I have not read that particular manga I'm relying on you to fill it out some more. As I was going through this I checked out some of the other pages from Renya of Darkness and I see that they are all in pretty bad shape so I will be reading the manga as soon as I get some free time and hopefully I will be able to help in improving all of those articles. Thank you and keep up the good work! &bull;J two&bull; &bull;[talk]&bull;  04:45, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

RE:Merge articles for Mesh and Tengu
Done. Could you take a look at it to see if there is anything else that should be removed, added, or modified. Thanks. 08:33, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Help with Oldrin Zeovn page
I cannot for the life of me figure out what Oldrin Zevon's outfit is when it comes to her original appearance. I did the best I could to make sure that the page was up-to-date and not riddled with BS, but where the Oldrin Zevon page currently stands is beyond my abilities since I cannot fully understand what Oldrin's first outfit is supposed to be. Could you help with the page? DokutaFutomimi (talk) 16:14, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

atb and AD difference
Revolution Year calculation: 2017-228=1789, French Republic Calendar was started on 1792. Year 1 is 1792-1793. Year 228 is 2019-2020 A.D. It's sure 55 B.C. is pre-a.t.b. They thought that 55 BC as 1 atb setting on 2008. Recent setting is newer. Windywalk (talk) 15:06, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

RE: World History page
Hi, Bahamut, could you participate in the discussion on my talk page. I would like to hear your thoughts on it. Thanks! 07:47, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

So do you think Akito the Exiled should be considered canon? 03:44, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

Pre and first year of the a.t.b.
Below linked site is glossary of Code Geass, the page is a.t.b. (Koureki) http://geass.g.hatena.ne.jp/keyword/%E7%9A%87%E6%9A%A6 ブリタニアの祖となるケルトの一部族が、カエサルによるガリア遠征（前58-51年）を撃退し、アウグストゥス帝時代（前27-後14年）に部族が独立した年を元年とする. 元年：アルウィン1世によるローマ撃退・部族独立 (アルウィン1世 is Celtic King Eowyn) Help to translate them and rewrite on World History article. Windywalk (talk) 17:50, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

Rollback Rights
Since, you and Windy have been quite active in this wiki for a while, would you like to gain rollback rights for this wiki? 04:31, January 6, 2016 (UTC)
 * Users with "rollback" right are able to undo bad edits with one click, by using the rollback link on diff pages, user contributions list, or the list of recent changes. So would you be willing to gain these rights? 05:08, January 6, 2016 (UTC)
 * Rollback rights have been given. 05:55, January 6, 2016 (UTC)

Europia United
I went ahead to rename the page. Lelouch Di  Britannia  13:52, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

Bahamut I created a much better template for KMF pages called KMF Info Box Final, please use it for the new KMF pages/update the old ones. Check the Alexander Type-02 Ryo new page and give me feedback.

Balofo (talk) 01:53, February 16, 2016 (UTC)

Page Rename of Alexander Type-02
Done! By the way, are you interested in becoming an admin of this wiki? 07:45, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

He doesn't, but I want Balofo (talk) 18:16, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Admin Offer
It's just that I'm not very active these days so if a vandal or spammer were to appear, I may not be available to deal with it. You've been a great a contributor, and an active and trusted user. Aside from you, I can't think of any other worthy candidate. 09:33, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

Then do your job and format the new template. Do something about the shitposting that's constant Balofo (talk) 12:37, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for accepting the offer. I've give you the rights! 07:43, April 3, 2016 (UTC)

By the way, how do I delete links? The old AI-Alexander link is obsolete with the new Alexander Drone page. --BahamutX978 (talk) 20:15, April 3, 2016 (UTC)

Correct name for the EU
I would like to bring this matter to your attention, as seen in the Europia talk page. Jroa (talk) 00:23, April 17, 2016 (UTC)

Full protection for Lelouch vi Britannia
Earlier today I just undid an edit from Hirishima26 that you had undone about one month ago. I foresee problems like this popping up again in the future, so do you think that it's time to upgrade the Lelouch vi Brittania page's protection to full protection so that only Admins like yourself can edit the page? DokutaFutomimi (talk) 14:58, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

And done. Full protection is up. BahamutX978 (talk) 15:56, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

Need to talk to you
Please drop by the geass general and put your trip Balofo (talk) 22:04, June 10, 2016 (UTC)

Affiliation Request
Hi! Joker Game Wiki would like to form an affiliation to the Code Geass Wiki. If you're interested, here is the wordmark.

Thank you for your time regardless! :)

TottyFanerism (talk) 11:10, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

Marika Soresi lockdown
Thanks for locking the Marika Soresi page. It seems people are still trying to deny that she is alive even though Oz is canon and confirmed her survival. DokutaFutomimi (talk) 17:48, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

Non-canon template
template is necessary on the pages. The article including non-canonical information. The canonical titles are original TV anime, Akito the Exiled, Oz the Reflection and Renya of Darkness. Suzaku of the Counterattack and Nightmare of Nunnally were alternate universe. Do you like insert a template with non-canonical warning? Is alternate universe considered to non-canon? Windywalk (talk) 04:48, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

infobox
my free time will be over soon, if you don't do what I asked in the general I won't be able to work on the wikia for months. It's so simple you just need to write a few lines. Balofo (talk) 21:25, August 20, 2016 (UTC)

Article movement notice
I moved Maelstrom of Libra articles to My User page. Because the article was incomplete and service was ended. No one know Libra contents. Wikipedia hasn't listed any about Maelstrom of Libra. Deleted main articles, if they reappear, I will recreate topic again. Thank you. Windywalk (talk) 08:26, September 24, 2016 (UTC)

Own material?
I rethought their names in yesterday, and result was Karine, mid-name 'do' respectively. Do you have image? I haven't see their image, because they're minor role. Charles' mid-name is 'zi'. Monica's name is Monica Krushevsky. Windywalk (talk) 07:17, October 19, 2016 (UTC)

Lelouch's title
In episode 22 Zhou Xianglin tells the rest of the Black Knights that the media had dubbed lelouch "The Knight for Justice" and "The Hero of the masses", can we add this for his nicknames? Vshinobi (talk) 08:41, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

Suzaku Kururugi protection upgrade
I get the feeling that with Resurrection coming the Suzaku Kururugi page is going to be a high target for vandalism. Do you think that this warrants locking down the page so that only admins can edit? DokutaFutomimi (talk) 12:02, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Suzaku Kururugi Update
I think you should better put the story of season 2 in season 1 and Akito the Exiled.Wyatt1993 (talk) 15:24, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

No, Wyatt. We keep that stuff separate for a reason. 204.122.110.251 15:45, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Alert: MENT
It seems that somebody has created a Code MENT page on this wiki. Should it be deleted as it contributes nothing meaningful? DokutaFutomimi (talk) 12:22, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Hm... probably. I personally don't think ABridged stuff belongs on a wiki like this. BahamutX978 (talk) 03:37, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

Europia Revisited
The Akito the Exiled English dub that was just officially released by Funimation Entertainment is using the term "United Republic of Europia" in its script.

Therefore, we should change the term "Europia United" into "United Republic of Europia" for the sake of consistency with the official English terminology.

See (or rather, hear) the first few seconds of this link, and also the on-screen subs that pop up at the 25th minute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7aMEhlm98Y Jroa (talk) 15:53, June 28, 2017 (UTC)


 * I'll have to make a call on that then in the near future. While I do want to keep everything with proper terminology in English, I do have one bit of hesitation; the difference between the old dub and this one is that it is not handled directly by Sunrise itself, so terminology is not necessarily official ones, or at least, not on the same level. Since they are only a liensor rather than owning and creating/producing the property, they merely translate it to english, and Funimation does take liberties with translations.


 * While I'll still have to make a decision, I would be up to hearing the thoughts and points of view of others as well, if anyone wants to offer their own thoughts on the matter. BahamutX978 (talk) 19:17, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Renaming KMF pages
Hello!

 I've encountered a problem with renaming of  Shinkirō   and  Guren S.E.I.T.E.N. Eight Elements   pages. All I managed to do was changing their address. My understanding is that they are protected from renaming by non-admin users. Could you please help and rename them accordingly to the pages' content ( Shinkiro   to   Shinkirō  and   Guren Type-08 Elements SEITEN   to   Guren SEITEN Eight Elements) ? I know this whole thing is insignificant but hey, there is no limit to perfection.

Many thanks in advance!

Cinereo Cardinalem (talk) 04:05, October 21, 2017 (UTC)

Code Geass Wiki Management and Adoption
Recently, Code Geass Wiki was raided and the admins did nothing to intervene. It is clear to me that CG Wiki's admins are too preoccupied by other things to properly manage the wiki.

Thus, I seek to gain admin and bureaucrat rights so I may run the wiki. However, in order to obtain these rights I need permission from the last admin who edited, which was you.

Please provide your approval of this adoption request:

[//community.wikia.com/wiki/Adoption%3ACode_Geass_Wiki_(2) http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Adoption%3ACode_Geass_Wiki_(2)]

Reddish010 03:44, November 21, 2017 (UTC)

This is what I feared to happen. I also request an adminship to the admin but no talk. Well, if he didn't answer you for atleast 60 days. Just submit another wiki adoption.

04:42, November 21, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not gone. I just unfortunately don't always have to time to attend to the wiki as much as I used to with how much I work lately. I don't know if I would hand over, but if I am open to any suggested actions to take and on who. BahamutX978 (talk) 07:37, November 21, 2017 (UTC)

You won't know know until they raid though. What this wiki needs is more admins. Just give me your blessing so I can obtain administrative rights from the Wikia staff.

Reddish010 05:12, November 22, 2017 (UTC)

I know admins has life. That is why you need another admin to foresee if this would happen again. I would love to watch this community. But, I never heard anything from Lelouch. I love this wikia, but I don't know when this place will be vandalised again. It would be a lot work. If you can give you 'agree' on this it would very much help. or we can foresee what will happen later.

06:25, November 25, 2017 (UTC)

We just got raided again. Can you please endorse this adoption request? CG Wiki would really benefit from having some more admins.

[//community.wikia.com/wiki/Adoption%3ACode_Geass_Wiki_(2) http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Adoption%3ACode_Geass_Wiki_(2)]

Reddish010 00:33, December 5, 2017 (UTC)

The better question to ask is, how do these foolish raiders know when the admins aren't looking?DokutaFutomimi (talk) 02:11, December 5, 2017 (UTC)

I'm aware it happened. If you hadn't noticed, they were all blocked quite a bit ago. I can't always be around, but I am trying to at least check in and if necessary, block vandals like the ones from before BahamutX978 (talk) 08:19, December 5, 2017 (UTC)

Hi BahamutX978, this is Shi Tsu Vi Britannia, a Code Geass wiki contributor since 2011. Active since then until this 2015. Recently, have changes in Episode list. Because thats what I want to focus on. Anyway, It came to my news that this wiki faces this so called vandalism or deleting some pages in this Code Geass community from this different user. Well, thanks to Sayla for the information. I love Code Geass and I love this community. I have hundred of changes in this community and I don't want to just trash it by other. It makes me sad if that happened. I know admin Lelouch is so focus  and so dedicated to give much of his time to make this community lovely and gorgeous. I seen a lot of admin which are now inactive, from Simant to him and you. Please don't let this page down. And If there's anything I can help, please allow me to help you. Like how admin Lelouch trust me in the Code Geass Wiki Facebook Page. Let's work together on this wikia. 09:44, December 11, 2017 (UTC)  09:46, December 11, 2017 (UTC)

Rollbacks
While I am still hesitant on the adoption part, in order to make things easier, I will be open to promoting some with Rollback. If anyone is interested in this, post, and I'll review their history on this wiki and make decisions based on them. --BahamutX978 (talk) 08:34, December 5, 2017 (UTC)

Request for Affiliation
Greetings~

I'm one of the admins of The Promised Neverland Wiki. I would like to have a partnership (read:affiliation) with your community. This is our, by the way. If you agree to my proposal, please notify me by replying to the same thread.

I'm looking forward to your positive response. If you have any questions, or if I'm asking in the wrong place, please let me know. Thank you~!

Discord Server Affiliation
Hello~

I am one of the admins of the /r/codegeass  Discord server and I am looking to affiliate the server with the wiki. From that I mean that I'm requesting to implement the Discord widget on the site. I hope it will benefit both the wiki and the server.

And I'm aware that the wiki has no active admins as of now so I'm not sure when I will get a reply. I hope you take the right decision and appoint some active admins here. I love the code geass community so I don't want this place to be vandalized by raiders.

~Zoro

Itsmezoro (talk) 06:41, January 2, 2018 (UTC)
 * Code Geass Discord Server affiliation


 * Hi there, Code Geas Wikia admins!


 * Discord servers have been a stable for many anime communities. It's a great place for the fans to gather and build connections. Many Wikias (such as One Piece, SAO and others) have an associated Discord server. Currently, the server is affiliated with the Code Geass subreddit and I'm wondering if this Wikia would be interested in affiliating with the server. This is how the SAO Wikia looks with their server: [//swordartonline.wikia.com/wiki/Yuuki_Asuna http://swordartonline.wikia.com/wiki/Yuuki_Asuna]


 * This would provide a place for the fans to instant-message each other. In return, those on the Discord server could help contribute to the pages on Wikia.


 * My username on Discord is The One 🔥#0001. Here is a link to the Discord server: https://discord.gg/codegeass


 * Thank you in advance!
 * I think this is a good idea. If it's simply an issue of not knowing how to add the widget to the wikia, I could walk you through it. It's quite simple. Munchvtec (talk) 20:49, March 15, 2018 (UTC)
 * Bump. Munchvtec (talk) 16:50, March 29, 2018 (UTC)
 * This is done. ^_^ Munchvtec (talk) 18:10, March 29, 2018 (UTC)

Affiliation Request
Greetings I am a bureaucrat from the Grancrest-Senki Wiki. I was wondering if you are interested in affiliating with Grancrest wiki as were are very intrigued with the layout and presentation of you wiki. Our series are also licensed by Aniplex, so the affiliation would be big advantage to both our wikis.

Affiliate programs are a great way to boost your Google search ranking and increase your wiki’s traffic. Swapping links with our wiki and external sites can help quickly expand your community network and increase your visibility.

This is a great way to promote your wiki and ours, so I really hope you consider our request.

Regards Jerlin4j 03:08, March 2, 2018 (UTC)

Where is this picture from?
Hello! I am sorry to bother you but I am wondering if you would mind telling me where is this picture from? I don't remember seeing this scene in any of the episodes. Thank you so much!! http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Stage_0.515?file=1519434366159.jpg Wen129 (talk) 21:03, March 2, 2018 (UTC)


 * Its from the new compilation movie. BahamutX978 (talk) 17:21, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

RE:Cleaning up the Wiki
Yeah, I agree.

So these are my thoughts on the Trivia section:


 * The Trivia section should only include actual relevant proven facts related to the article and no fan speculation and “what ifs/maybe”. They have to be specific. Can't be vague.
 * Obvious facts are unnecessary as well like [Character X] is the only female/male member of [Group Y], [Character X] is the only geass user/non-geass user of [Group Y], [Character X] is the only britannia/eleven of [Group Y], or etc. etc.
 * Things that are already mentioned in other sections of the article should not be included in the trivia section (e.g. birthday of a character).
 * Cultural references are a bit tricky. We have to be aware that not everyone will share the same opinion and "possible" connections may be considered speculation.

I'm afraid I'm not knowledgeable about the canon/non-canon appearances. Is it alright if I leave it to you to organize? Lelouch Di  Britannia  09:56, March 29, 2018 (UTC)

Beatrice Phalanx
Is this character legit? Lelouch Di  Britannia  10:13, April 1, 2018 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I have no idea. I had never heard of her before someone added her to the wiki. If I recall, when she was added, she was said to be from the novels, but I have never read any of them, so I can't say one way of the other. BahamutX978 (talk) 16:13, April 1, 2018 (UTC)


 * The novel is not canon though, right? Lelouch  Di  Britannia  16:49, April 1, 2018 (UTC)


 * I honestly have no idea. BahamutX978 (talk) 09:23, April 2, 2018 (UTC)


 * I'll delete it for now. Lelouch  Di  Britannia  09:39, April 2, 2018 (UTC)

Infobox Knightmare
It's a bit complicated and can get confusing so I made a simple guide on how to format it which you can check out here. Lelouch Di  Britannia  09:24, April 3, 2018 (UTC)

Tianzi's Birthday
A user claims that Tianzi's birthday is on January 28, 2005 based on a Japanese site. Here's the screenshot the user uploaded. Do you think it's accurate? The article in the wiki currently has Tianzi's birthday as January 28, 2006.

08:43, April 16, 2018 (UTC)

Palomides
Hello, Bahamut!

May I ask you to create a new "Unit Type" category for KMF template (namely 'kofdk' or 'Knight of Four Dedicated Knightmare'). The Palomides' page is terribly scanty as it is, so there should be as much info as possible. And just for uniformity's sake.

Cinereo Cardinalem (talk) 05:08, June 13, 2018 (UTC)

Hello bahamutX978.

I thought the wiki would benefit from a list which compiles all of the official statements regarding the end of the show, especially since there is such a massive amount of misinformation floating around online.

So I created a page which lists these statements, together with sources and links.

I hope you approve of this.

Could you add that new page to the "media" section of the site navigation?

I'd be very grateful.

2A02:1810:4F0B:500:994A:CDD7:AF7A:6464 18:30, June 18, 2018 (UTC)

I forgot to add the link to the page in my message

[//codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Collection_of_official_statements http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Collection_of_official_statements]

2A02:1810:4F0B:500:91A7:D631:FCCF:D438 22:21, June 19, 2018 (UTC)

There is somone trying to delete the new page (with official information about the show) on false pretense. That guy claims it's "blog material". For completeness ' sake I will repeat here (since you're an admin)  what I wrote on that guy's talkl page:

"that's not blog material, that's official information and has the same standing as things like release dates, dvd information, info about upcoming content, episode summaries, etc.

None of that is opinion (which is blog material), all of that is verificable fact, that's why the sources were included.

I'm fine with you removing catergories if you find that I picked the wrong ones (though I would think things like tweets and articles do belong in media and content), but then move the page to where you think it is more fitting.

If you are unsure about where to put it, please contact an admin "

He reacted to that by incorrectly labeling the page as "marked for deletion"

To be frank, I'm quite sure he simply has personal problems with the official content on that page. But the creators have said what the creators have said, whether he likes it or not.

81.82.46.46 03:12, June 20, 2018 (UTC)

I have reformatted the [//codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Collection_of_official_statements http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Collection_of_official_statements] page.

If you deem more changes are needed, let me know (and please explain me what to do, since this is all still very new to me).

Can the page now be added to the site navigation structure? An entry under "media" seems to be the most fitting, imho, since it deals with interviews, the blu-ray release, etc

2A02:1810:4F0B:500:71C9:A171:68CE:5A2 16:33, June 26, 2018 (UTC)

Profile Gallery
Hi! Sometime ago, I reformulated the Musics pages and, since I don't have a good use for my Profile Page, I wanted to know if it could turned into a gallery for the Openings and Endings, also has a way to show the official english lyrics and credits.

P.H. CP (talk) 21:26, July 23, 2018 (UTC)

I finally made an account to make things easier.

I've added a gallery with images and a video of the new epilogue (2009) to the page. It looks really good now, if I may say so myself. [//codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Collection_of_official_statements https://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Collection_of_official_statements]

So it is high time to finally add this page to the site navigation under "Media" and add some links. Now that I have an account I can see that the wiki itself is warning that the page has not been linked yet which makes it nigh unfindable. I'll add some links on relevant pages, but you'll have to do it on the Lelouch page since that one is locked. I suggest adding a "Notes" section above the already existing "trivia" section.

CodeGeassFan83 (talk) 18:31, July 24, 2018 (UTC)

Statements page
I'm more than willing to further change the format if you deem this subpar, but then you're going to have to direct me to someone who you think is suited for this.

But saying it needs better sources and just uses forum posts wounds me. Have you not read the page? There's a plethora of various official sources. links to articles and pictures of the actual magazines showing the interviews. links to teh actual twitter page of the creators. An official video (!!) which is part of the blu-rays. Etc

I've even included the many pictures in the gallery, it's there for all to see.

CodeGeassFan83 (talk) 20:00, July 24, 2018 (UTC)

Not just forum posts
I've tried contacting other mods to help out, but none are replying. Do you know another way to contact them? Or could you direct them to me?

In any case, in the past you've kept dismissing that page with the official statements as "forum posts", but that's miles away from the truth. Have you not yet seen all the sources and links? I'll add some in here so you can clearly see these are the real deal, words directly out the directors' and writers' mouths!

These are tweets, directly from their own twitter! https://twitter.com/ichirou_o/status/998739675895365633

- "Before I started writing the story of a person called Lelouch, I confirmed with Taniguchi-director something. That thing was that THE END OF LELOUCH WILL BE DEATH." - "At least he is aware of his sins and pays for them with HIS DEATH." - "This man called Lelouch will pay for his sins by HIS DEATH. The story follows him till he finally make this decision." - "Probably this Lelouch we see in the first episode of the series wouldn't CHOOSE DEATH. He would try something to avoid it. He couldn't DIE, for Nunnally as well. But we see him changed in the last episode."

Damnit, I can't add pictures on this page. Fine, I'll add the links to the photos then. DO click on them! Screenshot of the tweets: https://imgur.com/a/2dxGMFX   Translation: https://imgur.com/a/HoF6xhX

A video of the new epilogue from 2009: https://streamable.com/d8dji

Pictures of the interview where they explain that Nunnally does not see visions or memeories: https://imgur.com/a/fB459UA

Pictures of the interview where theye xplain Lelouch is dead: https://imgur.com/a/do0fiOb

Pictures of the official guide book: https://imgur.com/BUsQmFd https://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.net/images/c/a/code-geass-lelouch-of-the-rebellion-r2-official-guide-book-japan-anime-free-s-h-3dd125709d6de684a48b26ffff07f459.jpg https://imgur.com/uSV2HjN

I assure you that the translations are all correct, they were done by someone who speaks Japanese. If you do not believe me, find someone who speaks japanese and present all that material to him, he'll confirm.

So please, don't dismiss all this evidence as "forum posts", these are pictures of the actual physical magazines and official guide book, tweets directly from their own twitter, etc.

As for the quality of the style. Someone else has helped with tidying up, added pictures of the covers of the magzines in the text itself, created beautiful little footnote references, all nice and proper. The quality is now top notch! And the material is official and 100% factually correct, which is someting not all pages here can say as some still contain massive errors like the one I corrected a few days ago.

It is now time to finally add the page properly to the site. It needs to be part of the site navigation under "Media" and some pages need to link to the official statement page, i.e. the "Lelouch" page, the "Re;" page, the "Zero Requiem" page, the "Geass" page.

I read one of your comments earlier that you take offense that some people wave away the wiki as unreliable and untrustworthy. An understandable sentiment, you worked hard on making this wiki a good and decent site. It would be good for the credibility of the wiki if you don't hide a page in the closet which is filled with direct quotes from the creators' twitter and pictures of actual interviews. Help the wiki, add the page to the site navigation!

CodeGeassFan83 (talk) 19:15, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

Fourth Code Geass Movie Title
I think the page should be moved back.
 * Lelouch of the Re;surrection would fit with the previous series titles Lelouch of the Rebellion.
 * Sunrise referred to it as Code Geass Lelouch of the Re;surrection in their Facebook post.

While static images like this have no "of", the logo seen in the first PV does actually have an "of".--FortressMaximus #WeLoveLegends (Talk) Sign 23:44, August 9, 2018 (UTC)


 * You make a good point. I changed the name back to include the "of" BahamutX978 (talk) 04:42, August 10, 2018 (UTC)

This issue needs your attention too
And another 2 weeks have gone by without any action taking to properly embed [//codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Collection_of_official_statements https://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Collection_of_official_statements] into the site. Ignoring the issue, or me, won't make the issue, nor me, disappear.

The other 2 admins barely show signs of life, and I get you're busy with other projects, but if there's too much work then appoint more admins. Or just get it over with and be done with it: add the page to the site navigation under "Media" on this page: [//codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation https://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation]. Furthermore other pages need to link to the "official statement" page, for example: the "Lelouch" page, the "Geass" page, the "Zero Requiem" page, the "Re;" page (final episode). If linking those pages is too much work, I'll do it for you, but the site navigatioin thing is something only you can do.

The style is really not an argument anymore as that article looks identical to other articles, and is filled with actual sources such as the writer's own tweets, pictures of the interviews and the guide book, etc. It's much better sourced and backed up than some other pages here which are properly embedded.

CodeGeassFan83 (talk) 21:54, August 10, 2018 (UTC)

As just a passerby on the wiki, I want to chime in on this matter.

I think this whole page you keep pushing for is not just unnecessary, but frankly stupid. You keep obsessing over this, posting in random comments that have nothing to do with what you want, practically stalking the poor guy. You call this an "issue" but it's really not. Nobody else really cares about this but you.

And even ignoring how I think the article is unnecessary, its also just plain written badly. The whole thing reads more like an opinion piece than an article that should be posted on a wiki. Look, I have been in the camp of "He is dead" since the beginning, but your article reads like you trying to win an internet argument rather than being informative. And ultimately its unnecessary because all thats really needed on this wiki is the "Deceased" tag. You can call the whole thing "settled" but the truth is, this won't ever convince everyone. There will always be people who won't ever be convinced or those that invoke "Death of the Author" types of arguments.

I know that I'm gonna come off as a bit harsh about this, but honestly I've just gotten really annoyed by your constant pushing for this article that nobody cares about.--

Well mister anonymous, the fact that his status says "deceased" is on its own meaningless with proper sources. For the longest time V.V.'s page said that his real name was Victor even though though there's no sources for that either. I've corrected several other mistakes on the wiki. Info without proper sources is suspsect, the page I'm "pushing" as you call it is the proper sources to make the wiki more credible and thus a better site. If you believe a wiki doesn't need to be credible, doesn't need sources and can be the home to whatever headcanons people may have, then you don't understand the meaning of what a wiki is. This isn't fanfiction.net

That you think it's poorly written is of no matter and frankly quite ludicrous as it's simply a list of official statements, i.e. factual, objective information. If you think that enumerating official statements reads as an opinion piece, then tell me how YOU with all your wisdom would list a bunch of dry facts.

The page is also not meant to convince anyone, it's meant to be the much needed source to back up the claim the wiki makes about Lelouch being dead.

And lastly, you think I'm stalking this "poor guy"? He's an admin! This is his job and he's not doing it! The public has the duty to prod people in a position of authority who aren't properly doing their job. I've been kind enough to give him ample time (weeks!) between my pokes. None of this would have been necessary if he had done his job in the first place.

Since you can't comprehend something, the source of Lelouch being dead is the series itself. You see him get stabbed through his chest on screen. Anything else is just a fan theory no matter how much the people push it, the fact is he dies on screen before Nunnally. The infamous Code theory never had anything to actually back it up. You going through all this effort is a waste of time because the burden of proof has always been on the other side. The best source is always the source material itself. Sources are only needed for stuff that contradicts or covers things not shown. If you see something like the V.V. thing, fix it then. Find the source or erase it. No need for a whole page dedicated to it.

The fact that you can't tell how badly written your pet project is speaks more about you than me. From wording to everything else. You say its just factual, objective information, but thats not the case. Like i said before, its written like an opinion piece. The wording and and language you use come off someone having an internet argument. If it were objective, it would just be the sources themselves and nothing else. You don't need to spice it up.

And really lastly, you only accuse him of not doing his job because hes not doing what YOU want him to do. Its not his job to do what you want him yo do. As far as I can tell, he has been doing his job just fine in the time span you apeak of, because you can see plenty of the activities hes been doing here. Don't forget, you're not entitled to get your way here. The fact that you do to me comes off as you being a spoiled child. Like I said, I don't think anyone who frequents this wiki actually cares.--

"Anything else is just a fan theory": you call the creators saying Lelouch is dead a fan theory? You call the official guide book a fan theory? You call the remade epilogue from 2009 a fan theory? There's more than "just the anime" and "fan theory", official statements are canon because they come from the show staff.

"You going through all this effort is a waste of time because the burden of proof has always been on the other side.": while I agree that the burden of proof is on the other side, it doesn't hurt to actually provide proof for the official statements. Let's not forget the "Lelouch = alive" people ALSO claim that the creators have stated that it was confirmed that Lelouch had the code. For outsiders both sides use the exact same argument. That's why there's tremendous value in being able to backup your owrds with actuall proof such as links, sources and pictures. THAT is the point of the page which really needs to become embedded in the wiki. The proof exists, why throw it away? Why let people who are less familiar with the matter be victims to the disinformation? The wiki has the reponsability to inform the fandaom!

"Sources are only needed for stuff that contradicts or covers things not shown": in that case just delete the entire wiki. Why have a page on Lelouch which describes his character and summzarizes his actions? It's all in the anime anyway! And we don't need any info on things which are in the anime. That wouldbe the result of your reasoning if pushed to its logical conclusion. Obviously that's a bad idea. there's merit in gathering info, even if the info was obvious in the anime.

"No need for a whole page dedicated to it": again, same argument. Why have a page for each episode? the episodes are part of the anime so let it speak for itself. The reason why a wiki exists is because there's value in gathering all the info in one place. Thuis includes pages on things you consider self evident. It's not because YOU personally don't see value in a page that theres houldn't be a page on it.

"You say its just factual, objective information, but thats not the case": tell me how quotes from the creators are factual, aren't objective and isn't information. Did you even read the page? How are the tweets which come directly from the creators not factual or objctive? You're throwing hollow accusations around in the hope of confusing people who haven't yet read the page.

"The wording and and language you use come off someone having an internet argument.": the quotes are the quotes.

"you only accuse him of not doing his job because hes not doing what YOU want him to do": making sure that all info is accessible is his job as an admin, that's not kust my take. The quotes on that page are factual and objective, but he is dismissing actual tweets from the creators and pictures of the interviews in the physical magazines as "forum posts". How else to explain that as just trying to dodge responsability to do your duty?

"you're not entitled to get your way here": don't try to sping things as if this is about me. This is about the disinformation which is rampant in this fandom and providing the necessary information. That's his DUTY as an admin of the wiki. This isn't about me or what I want, I'm merely the messenger. If you think the info on that page is self evident and that there's no doubt about the ending, that's good for you, but I suggest you take a look outside and read up on the massive wave of disinformation out there, people claiming it's official that Lelouch is alive and immortal, people claiming it's the writers who made code theory and not the fans, people saying that Lelouch with the code is official canon, etc. There's a clear need for information. As a wiki this task falls on this site. As an admin of this wiki it's his DUTY to the fandom to provide said information, even if he personally thinks it's unnecessary. This isn't about personal opinions such as yours, mine or his.

"The fact that you do to me comes off as you being a spoiled child": I'm just going to ignore your weak attempt at an ad hominem attack. The fact that you see yourself forced to use such underhanded tactics is a clear indication you have no real arguments.

"Like I said, I don't think anyone who frequents this wiki actually cares": it's not up to you to decide what people must or musn't care about, that's up to those people themsleves. Even if there's only 10% of people who come here who would be interested, those people still deserve to find the info they're looking for. Are you going to state that those people don't deserve information? Are you saying those people aren't worth it to be helped? This wiki is for everyone! Not everyone has the exact same interests as you do.

I know my opinion pretty much doesn't matter, but could you please for the love of God move this to your own Talk pages, if you want to continue this rather useless debate? Bahamut did nothing to deserve having this miniature war in their own territory.
 * Francis val Britannia (talk) 19:24, August 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree with Francis, this sin't the place for such a discussion with an anon. If anon wants to discuss things he's free to do that in the appropriate places. As such I'm deleting the entire pointeless back and forth between us as it drowned out the original message. Thank you Francis!
 * CodeGeassFan83 (talk) 19:27, August 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * And I'm going to restore it, because while I'm going to ask you both to not have this discussion on my talk page any further, I am also going to tell you not to just erase opinions in a discussion that you don't like.
 * I'm still not convinced in the page's quality. One thing, as annoying as this back and forth done on my talk page over doing it somewhere else, not all the criticism is invalidated. The article is in fact not written objectively. You have entire sections telling people how to interpret certain information rather than letting them simply read the interview or statements from them. Thats not objective at all.
 * Moreover, accusing me of not doing my job isn't going to motivate me or guilt me into doing this any faster like you may hope, especially because anyone who pays attention lately can plainly see what I have been doing. I have my own projects with improving this wiki that I find to be more pressing and worthwhile in improving the quality of this wiki. I've been slowly improving and adding in more KMF pages, which is always my main focus. We have a new data book on KMFs coming out at the end of the month on KMFs and I'm hoping for plenty of new info or details. I'm aiming to improve character pages with more info in their other appearances, implement separate gallery pages for larger galleries like Lelouch and others, clean up things like the trivia sections from the more useless information. I also want to get around to making sure that the compilation movies get proper pages done up. And other ideas. All of this, in my opinion, is far more important. I don't always have the free time to continuously work on all this, as I have work and other such things. BahamutX978 (talk) 05:00, August 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm still not convinced in the page's quality. One thing, as annoying as this back and forth done on my talk page over doing it somewhere else, not all the criticism is invalidated. The article is in fact not written objectively. You have entire sections telling people how to interpret certain information rather than letting them simply read the interview or statements from them. Thats not objective at all.
 * Moreover, accusing me of not doing my job isn't going to motivate me or guilt me into doing this any faster like you may hope, especially because anyone who pays attention lately can plainly see what I have been doing. I have my own projects with improving this wiki that I find to be more pressing and worthwhile in improving the quality of this wiki. I've been slowly improving and adding in more KMF pages, which is always my main focus. We have a new data book on KMFs coming out at the end of the month on KMFs and I'm hoping for plenty of new info or details. I'm aiming to improve character pages with more info in their other appearances, implement separate gallery pages for larger galleries like Lelouch and others, clean up things like the trivia sections from the more useless information. I also want to get around to making sure that the compilation movies get proper pages done up. And other ideas. All of this, in my opinion, is far more important. I don't always have the free time to continuously work on all this, as I have work and other such things. BahamutX978 (talk) 05:00, August 12, 2018 (UTC)

1) If you're fine with having this on your talk page, then that's OK. But don't project assumptions on me. I did NOT erase opinions which I didn't like, the deleted text was still available in the history of the page, for all to read who wanted it. I even explicitly said text was deleted, so anyone who was curious knew where to look.

2) You're referring to the "Notes" section, a section which is not part of the listed official statements, but a framing of the state of the disinformation in the fandom. It is the very first time you give feedback which is more than the vague "not good enough" or "just forum posts" (which is even incorrect, and frankly quite insulting). Thank you for that, now I finally know what is bothering you, after asking you for 2 months. So, if I just fully delete the "Notes" section, will you then finally add the page to the site navigation under "Media" and let links to the page be posted? (this is not a rethorical question, I do expect a reply)

3) I know you have your projects and I have been very patient. I have been waiting for two months and this is the very first time you actually give useful feedback. I have always waited weeks between asking questions, even though you almost always just ignored me. I'm not "guilting" you into anything, I'm merely givign you constructive and fair criticism, i.e. you have been ignoring matters, that cannot be denied. You are in a position of authority, being criticized comes with the job. "High trees catch a lot of wind" as they say in my language. If you feel you are too swamped with work on the wiki, get more admins.

4) Thank you to the friendly anon who caused enough ruckus so I could finally get a reply

CodeGeassFan83 (talk) 06:18, August 12, 2018 (UTC)