Talk:Knights of the Round/@comment-44997843-20200724001817/@comment-27492705-20200724234124

Earl Dirtbag, that's a totally fair judgement. They sided with Charles and Schneizel and didn't seem to question their goals or motives or methods. It is frustrating. And Luciano is unequivocally the worst, a sadistic, murderous bastard. Seeing how he treats Marika makes me all the more happy Kallen killed him. I don't dislike Gino because of how sweet he is, but ain't fond of him either. Anya had nowhere else to go really and Marianne probably kept her in the Rounds, and we know Suzaku, so it's hard for me to dislike them.

LuvOf99Th, Lelouch said in the show he was making himself a symbol of hatred. In his mind, if he gave the world a common enemy, they would come together. Once the symbol of violence and hatred was destroyed via Zero Requiem, peace would rein, in part because no one would want something like him to happen again. Lelouch wanted to make peace last for a long time.

Also I still love Suzaku in part because I've been seeing through his eyes, and for a long time I looked at him through Lelouch's eyes. A lot of the awful shit Suzaku did, he did in grief. The woman he loved was killed right in front of him. Doesn't make up for it in any way, but it explains it. There's also how he can never fully manage to not care about Lelouch. In Euro Britannia when he went so far as to choke Lelouch, as soon as he realized what he was doing, he stepped away, and even when Lelouch asked him to kill him, he said they'd go get Nunnally together, and he let Lelouch sleep on his shoulder until whenever Rolo showed up. Then specifically in Shirley's episode, Suzaku finds himself having fun with Lelouch, but as soon as he realizes it, he admonishes himself.

And despite everything, Lelouch still loved him. Even after Suzaku did all those awful things, he still called Suzaku and begged him to save Nunnally.

And Suzaku couldn't manage to hate Lelouch. He can't let himself forgive him for all he's done, but he did ask multiple times if there was a way to complete the Requiem without killing Lelouch, did follow through on their promise, and cried when he ran Lelouch through. Even in Re;surrection, Lelouch doesn't correct Suzaku's assumption that he lied to him and told he to do what he wanted likely knowing what Suzaku would do. And when Suzaku started hitting him, he was yelling about the grief his death put people through. And if you look, after C.C. grabs Suzaku and Lelouch drops and he's a bit bloodied up, he's smiling. For some reason he wanted Suzaku to do that. And then he's so sad at the prospect of Lelouch leaving again one way or another.

And Lelouch sure as heck ain't perfect either. That's a whole other list.

To clarify, Lelouch is my favorite, and I didn't used to be fond of Suzaku. But they are both traumatized children who fail to put themselves in each other's place. I grew to understand Suzaku and that's why I love him. It helps that other characters I love like Lelouch, Euphy, Arthur, Nunnally, and Shirley all love him too. They're all too kind for me to hate someone they love so much.